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"I'm just going to say this once"

The newest flame thread on Community has made it to other schools. Dartmouth boy Jeremy Pham, who has been taking classes here this past semester, has made some pretty low comments. Thoughts?

"I'm just going to say this once"

I don't speak much, since I'm pretty reserved by nature and I'm never really around either (I'm always doing projects at the other school in Cambridge). But since Wellesley girls apparently insist on writing false posts under my name, as well as treating my friends that visit here like crap just because they're not 5'9 and don't possess the male-dominated social space of the MIT fratboy that's fucking the shit out of you nightly, I present to you...what normal, rational people think of you girls:

1) You are all a bunch of whores. No, seriously. The stereotype that Wellesley girls obsess over men is so true that it's not even funny. Go to a normal school like Dartmouth (where one of your girls won't leave after 4 terms because she wants to milk the place for all it's worth) and you'll see that nobody there obsesses to the degree that the people in the 5th percentile here do. Consequently, you all make poor decisions. Which is why people on the Internet laugh at you. Which is why people on the Internet will laugh at you even more when I make a reddit post detailing my experiences here.

2) You are all undeserving of the education and opportunities you have received. The sense of entitlement here is actually kind of incredible. Just to make sure it just wasn't me, my friend visiting right now notices it too. And he's much more outgoing, friendly, and chill than I am. But he's not 5'9, so sorry girls. But there are some insecure dudes littering the streets of Commonwealth for your amusement.

3) You are all too easy. Some of us refuse to participate in the orgy of sexual tension here because we want to be respected for who we are, not what we are. Of course, for others, it's as easy as dropping the MIT/Harvard moniker. I mean, what idiot thinks a meaningful relationship can develop out of a superficial encounter at a party? Seriously, WTF. At my school, there aren't that many relationships. But at least we're honest about the fact that most of us are just merely infatuated with the other party, and not actually "in love."

Do not make up shit under false pretenses. Do not treat my friends like shit. Do it one more time, and I will sue you. It's so funny that there's this Wellesley Community discussion group thing going on, but if you girls can't do something as trivial as leave me alone to do my own thing, you guys have no shot at forming a cohesive community. No fucking chance.

And I'll just sit back and enjoy the schadenfreude.


Later post

"I'm really sorry"

...for ever coming here. And calling all of you whores. Clearly, some of you are still very upset about my Community post, but I have learned a lot about the difficulties that a woman faces every single day in America. It brings a tear to my eye (metaphorically) to know that some of you are very passionate about women's rights, but I feel that your energies are misdirected. Sure you will deal with me and eradicate me from this campus in style, but your problems will still be there. Your inability to get to the root of the issues that plague our world will still be there. While other guys give me fist pumps and brag about their conquests at this school, I must endure the brunt of your criticisms so that you may all be united under the banner of activism.

And it worked perfectly.

There are real instances of women here actually being alienated from the rest of the Wellesley community. There are real cases of rape and belligerent boyfriends. My hope was that you would all unite to chastise such an extremely contemptible figure so that these issues cannot be ignored. Because honestly, what's the difference between saying thoughts behind your backs, and posting them live? There is no intrinsic difference. And yet, the perception differs, and so I wanted to explore that today. My hope was that some of these alienated women on campus can venture out of their rooms and be embraced by a community that's trying to flame me relentlessly. If I had written something benign, only a few people would have acknowledged it, and that would have been that. Nothing like controversy to stir up the day.

While I was writing the apparently insufficient apology last night, the police officer came into my room to make sure that everything was okay. I chuckled and told him that everything was okay. He wanted to offer me protection from the perhaps inevitable fallout from my polemic. Later, he read my letter and told me that it was cool, and it was the best I could have done...

Also, controversies like this happen all the time. Given the knowledge that the ACLU has my back and that I'm protected by the First Amendment, and the fact that friends who were journalists at other schools attempted similar stunts (with surprising degrees of success that resulted from open dialogue), I figured that this could turn out to be pretty sweet. And just so you know, nothing will happen to me. So for those of you seeking administrative intervention, you are only wasting your time. And for those of you seeking media attention, by all means. But understand that it'll also mean that I get my facetime, and you just can't spin a 2300 gang up on a lone campus figure in any positive way, especially given that I was trolling (even then, you wouldn't need that requirement). Also just so you know, assault or throwing water at someone's face is not protected by the First Amendment (or any). Of course, the event was trivial enough as it was, but if things escalate...

And do any of you honestly believe that I hold these misogynistic views? Please. Get real here. I hold a degree from the best trolling school of all time. I was pissed that you guys used my identity though. And to be honest, this whole debacle IS kind of hilarious. Let's be honest here. It's pretty damn hilarious.

Comments

He really has nothing better to do with his life?
"Yeah, uh, I swear, I was just being a dick so you could all, like, be unified. It's about open dialogue. It was, like, a thought experiment. Totally."
What a douche.
Insecurity much? Under all that bravado, I'll bet he's terrified re: potential fallout. Which probably won't be any worse than it already has been, but still. What an ass.
Well, it certainly did get people back on poor, flagging Community, *that's* for sure.
What a special boy...
It doesn't even mean anything. He keeps being stupid and then taking it back, and then being stupid again in the exact same way. Maybe that's "pretty hilarious"...
Seems to me that someone is a bit concerned about being...uh...short.

I'm incredibly amused that, from everything I can gather, Community seems to have responded with lolcats.

(Anonymous)

I think you have to question his motives for attending WC in the first place - this is not normal. Perhaps he has a gender identity issue.

Also, I think he really meant what he said in his first post and I don't believe his claim that he was being a troll in his second comment.

-v-
This is not a fair statement: "Perhaps he has a gender identity issue". I know a number of people who endure gender dysphoria and have made changes, and NOT ONE of them has attacked the gender they desire to join this way. They try to become part of a community, not attack it. Please educate yourself about trans issues before making statements like this. He has a self esteem issue. He has a male privilege issue. He cannot fathom that his way of looking at women is completely off base. He can't handle all of the estrogen around him, from powerful, smart women.

(Anonymous)

I'm thinking that he was previously a perfectly normal red-blooded male that has been affected by by all that estrogen around him at WC. He needs to be rescued and put back into a predominately male environment where he will flourish. He is questioning his identity as a male because the mean gurlz at WC have rejected him.

You write remarkably well and think clearly. Have you been taking T?

-v-
You can see my additional post below as to my assumption about why he may have chosen Wellesley. Perhaps he thought he could "improve" the school by bringing his brand of male privilege and teaching the women something. Or, perhaps he was seduced by the academics and gave no thought to the social environment he was entering, was shocked/surprised by it, and lashed out inappropriately. Yes, his rejection has clearly made him question himself, but he seems to be channeling that into asserting what HE thinks is proper, imposing his standards, rather than actually questioning his assumptions in the first place. As for being a normal red blooded male - what does that mean? There are many ways to be male as well as many ways to be female. Being male does not always, automatically, mean being sexist (though it's alarming and sad how much sexism still pervades our society). What I think he MAY be questioning is why the women at Wellesley are not fitting neatly into the little boxes in his mind the way he expects them to, based on his Dartmouth experiences and perhaps life experience before that.

As for how I write, thank you but I am actually rather confused by your question. Does thinking clearly and writing well correlate somehow to taking T?

I am a Wellesley alum, class of 1990. I am not transsexual and therefore not taking T. I have a female body but generally consider my gender to be an "in between space", not traditionally defined male or female (usually I say my gender is soft butch). I am exploring what that means, and the insufficient language to describe it, more and more. As I said before, I have a number of friends who *have* transitioned, both MTF and FTM. I learn from their experiences as well as others who have written about their own experiences.

(Anonymous)

Oh God no! I meant to type "have you been talking T (troll)" and not "have you been taking T". It is none of my business what you take and you certainly don't need to explain your gender to me.

I'm assuming that since you went to WC you had to pass as a female to get in and that's good enough for me, really.

Exactly, what is male privilege and where does it manifest itself? Is it male privilege that more men hold patents than women, or have more Nobel prizes or that there are more male symphony orchestra conductors than women? Is it possible that men are more creative than women? Their heads are bigger you know. Is it possible that women are more talented in other equally important areas? Yes, yes it is. Is there any reason to discriminate against women because men have bigger heads (and possibly bigger brains)? No it is not. Why? Because for every smart man you find I can always show you a smarter woman (and vice versa). In the end we need to judge people whether male or female on their individual merits and not on gender. We need to stop fighting about gender.

The women at WC should have been nicer to Mr. Pham. He is a guest after all. At least he didn't internalize the perceived abuse and develop an eating disorder or a rash.

-v-
I am still not sure what "talking T (troll) means? And gee, so glad to hear that passing as female for Wellesley is good enough for you. That was a little dismissive there. It's not up to you, is it?

Male privilege manifests in many ways: assumptions about women, assumptions about how women are supposed to react around them, assumptions - in too many cases- that men are better and should be first.

There are well documented studies that show that in a co-ed classroom, male students are more likely to be called upon. That women are less strongly encouraged to pursue math and sciences past around jr high (I believe). While there are always exceptions to everything, there are countless examples throughout history of how women have been devalued and it still happens today. That men hold more patents, have won more Nobels etc, does not by definition mean that the men are smarter on the whole but had had many more opportunities and support than women have had throughout history. This is why women's colleges are still highly relevant - it provides an environment for some women to study and learn without having to compete with men for credibility and resources. There are still great disparities in earnings between equivalently educated/experienced men and women, even greater disparities when you factor in race and disabilities.

In an ideal world, you would be right - we need to look past gender. We do not yet live in that world. If we did, there would be no need for single sex colleges. There would be no basis for Mr. Pham to make his comments. Making a mass generalization and calling the Wellesley women around him "whores" shows how quickly he really does dismiss women and certainly does not perceive them as equal. Calling Dartmouth normal implies that Wellesley is not normal, which once again begs the question of why he chose to go there.

Exactly what do you mean that the women should have been "nicer" to him? We know nothing about the caliber of interactions he had with any one around him past his own self serving comments. Why should the women have been nicer, and what exactly does "nicer" mean? That they would sleep with him, dote on his every need? Validate him before themselves? Your comment about eating disorders or rashes is a put down, as well, and rather contrary to your stated desire to see a gender neutral world. You're being just as dismissive of these women as he was.

(Anonymous)

You make a lot of good points for the year oh say 1975. Things have changed. I recently heard on NPR that high school women have surpassed high school men on SAT scores as a result all the extra attention that has been given to them. I personally know women fighter pilots, astronauts, and many, many women scientists, doctors and engineers - all science and math types. Nobody held them back. Half the people that go to med school are now women and I think that more than half of the people that go to law school are women.

In fact what we now have is reverse discrimination where our young men are being held back so that our young women can excel. That's not treating people equal now is it?

I feel that in this day and age people who persist in bringing up gender issues (and race issues for that matter) at the drop of a hat have something to gain from perpetuating these myths.

We need to stop blaming people for gender bias or calling them racist and start taking reponsibilty for our own inadeqacies and weaknesses.

-v-

If belittling opposition view points is how you make an argument, we will gain no ground.

The points I made are absolutely still valid. Yes, women have made enormous strides towards equal representation in many areas of work force, but salary discrepancies still remain. To claim there is reverse discrimination is one of the worst straw arguments that faces feminism today. There is no "oh boo hoo for the boys" from me. Women fought for the gains, and are still fighting. If boys or men are feeling left out because no one is simply handing them the opportunities anymore, then they need to start working harder. What you are calling for is a reversal for women, that we should be "nice" to the poor boys again and let them have some of their sandbox back. If gender is really neutral in your eyes, then the numbers of how many of each are in which career should no longer be relevant, yes?

Just making a wild supposition here, but because you complain about the fact that gender and race issues are still being discussed, you seem to sit in a position of privilege where neither of those factors has had an impact on your life. If I am wrong, please correct me. But if you do not see real issues and real fights still happening, then you and I really do not live in the same world. Explain inadequacies and weaknesses to a child of poverty (regardless of race) who does not have the access to textbooks in the earliest years of school when the foundations are laid and never gain the tools that allow them to be competitive with the kids who go to private schools, or even better public schools, and have everything. You would blame the poor kids for not owning their weaknesses? Yes, some of them fight their way out of those situations but many more are lost to it precisely because equality for all is still a work very much in progress. The playing field is NOT level for all of us which continues to make places like Wellesley relevant. And feminism, and the struggle against racism.

(Anonymous)

You represent everything that discredits feminism

You represent the ultra-PC wing that has become everything resented by mainstream society.

People like you invent terms like "heteronormative" and "ungendered" which really haven't got any meaning because you'd like to pretend you are above the rest of the world and need to insulate yourselves in your pseudo-intellectual bubble.

In the real world you have to deal with real expectations and (yes) real assholes like Pham. Shutup and ignore him like the rest of us. You are not going to enact broad societal change by your blog posts.

Also- quit the shit that gender is something you can change. You have a dick or you don't, it's as simple as that. Those in between can get a DNA test to figure it out. You don't get to pick.


...idiot liberals...

Re: You represent everything that discredits feminism

Wow, angry much?

I live in a real world, and it's full of nuances. Yours seems strictly black/white, either/or, this way/that way. That's a pretty limited world.

Until you have walked in the shoes of someone with gender dysphoria, you have no business passing judgement since you clearly know nothing of that struggle. Good for you for never having to walk that path.

I COULD say "idiot conservatives". But I won't. I will wish for you the mercy and compassion that you seem to lack.

(Anonymous)

Re: You represent everything that discredits feminism

FYI, that wasn't me. I always use my moniker and if someone else uses it, I will make a comment and say "Impostor Post".

I am coming around to your point of view. I think somewhere in between us lies reality. I think you are a kind and thoughful person and I like the way you write.

-v-

Re: You represent everything that discredits feminism

v, I did not think it was you - the tone was quite different from your posts. But thanks for clarifying and your kind words as well as for your email. Hope to have a chance to reply soon.

Have a good Thanksgiving!

(Anonymous)

you should read this website: http://transformationcentral.org/feministtransmain/femtransmain.html
It's pretty damn hilarious that he keeps namedropping Dartmouth. Dartmouth? Really?

Also, something this yawn-worthy doesn't deserve discussion.
20 years ago when I was taking Philosophy and Feminism at Wellesley, our prof started one class with a discussion about abortion rights. A male student (can't remember if he was on campus for the semester or from MIT and taking a class) raised his hand to say "Can you explain to me how abortion is a women's rights issue? I always thought it was a religious issue?" I don't think he was being a troll, he was just clueless.

20 years later, it seems that cluelessness has not waned. It is relevant that he comes from Dartmouth since that is a school renowned for the old boys mentality. I think he lacks any capacity for understanding that there is a different view of women than he came to Wellesley bearing. I know that Dartmouth women ARE smart, but that's diffused by the coed environment. I don't think he knows how to handle or approach smart women who are not just academic robots. The generalizations he makes could probably be equally applied to any women's college. (I grew up and live again not far from Dartmouth and know women alums from there, so I have some idea what happens on that campus).

He comes bearing misogyny. He is not willing to face that and change his perceptions of women. He demonstrates the male privilege of "I'm right, I know I am right and neener neener nothing you say means anything." Does definitely make me wonder why he chose to attend Wellesley. It's like he went there JUST to troll for a fight and prove how right he is with his perception of women. And then was surprised that the women around him didn't just bow at his feet for pointing out "his" version of truth. He doesn't understand his environment.

(Anonymous)

interesting

You shouldn't generalize or stereotype groups of women at any college. As someone who knows many women there, I think they have amazing women of color discussions that I feel Wellesley lacks.
final irrefutable proof that man drama is worse than dyke drama

(Anonymous)

Original WellesleyFML post made anonymously:
Nov. 21, 2009
I’m the only guy on a campus of 2300 girls but I’m still not getting any. FML
Note: FML is an open website that anyone, both from Wellesley and outside of Wellesley, can post on. All posts and subsequent comments are made anonymously.



This was posted to the Transfer Students 2009 Mentor Group on September 3, 2009
----- Original Message -----

Hi. My name is Jeremy Pham (Dartmouth '11), and I love women. Otherwise, why would I even bother going through a potentially emasculating experience? My favorite movies are The Big Lebowski, Fight Club, and The Silence of the Lambs. Born February 25, 1989 in Toronto. Attended high school in the backwaters of Georgia after transferring from a Baha'i school full of religious zealots. Much hilarity ensued in college. Needless to say, the Wellesley experience will be tame in comparison.

#[phone# removed]

FOCUS: What craziness have you witnessed/experienced in the past year? I'll start - just last night I was at a movie premiere in Boston, and some protesters from Harvard were protesting against rape. So one of my friends from MIT posts a sign that says, "Love Women, Rape Christianity" in an attempt to troll the people picketing outside (he's kind of a hardcore atheist). As a former activist myself, I have to say that the juxtaposition was hilarious.

Also, tons of party/funny stories, but I'm not sure how weak ya'lls dispositions are. Perhaps that kind of stuff is taboo here. I know you guys throw pies at people that we embrace.

~Trolling is a Art



(Anonymous)

Post 1:
Saturday, Nov. 21, 2009 5:42:43pm

I don't speak much, since I'm pretty reserved by nature and I'm never really around either (I'm always doing projects at the other school in Cambridge). But since Wellesley girls apparently insist on writing false posts under my name, as well as treating my friends that visit here like crap just because they're not 5'9 and don't possess the male-dominated social space of the MIT fratboy that's fucking the shit out of you nightly, I present to you...what normal, rational people think of you girls:

1) You are all a bunch of whores. No, seriously. The stereotype that Wellesley girls obsess over men is so true that it's not even funny. Go to a normal school like Dartmouth (where one of your girls won't leave after 4 terms because she wants to milk the place for all it's worth) and you'll see that nobody there obsesses to the degree that the people in the 5th percentile here do. Consequently, you all make poor decisions. Which is why people on the Internet laugh at you. Which is why people on the Internet will laugh at you even more when I make a reddit post detailing my experiences here.

2) You are all undeserving of the education and opportunities you have received. The sense of entitlement here is actually kind of incredible. Just to make sure it just wasn't me, my friend visiting right now notices it too. And he's much more outgoing, friendly, and chill than I am. But he's not 5'9, so sorry girls. But there are some insecure dudes littering the streets of Commonwealth for your amusement.

3) You are all too easy. Some of us refuse to participate in the orgy of sexual tension here because we want to be respected for who we are, not what we are. Of course, for others, it's as easy as dropping the MIT/Harvard moniker. I mean, what idiot thinks a meaningful relationship can develop out of a superficial encounter at a party? Seriously, WTF. At my school, there aren't that many relationships. But at least we're honest about the fact that most of us are just merely infatuated with the other party, and not actually "in love."

Do not make up shit under false pretenses. Do not treat my friends like shit. Do it one more time, and I will sue you. It's so funny that there's this Wellesley Community discussion group thing going on, but if you girls can't do something as trivial as leave me alone to do my own thing, you guys have no shot at forming a cohesive community. No fucking chance.

And I'll just sit back and enjoy the schadenfreude.



Post 2:
Saturday, Nov. 21, 2009 6:54:26pm

Why does everyone here always assume that it's about not getting some?

"Dear Jeremy,

I'm sorry you and your short friend are not liking Wellesley as much as you have hoped. Seems to me however, that you are really going out of your way to get even more attention from us Wellesley "whores." it is also clear to me that no one has put out for you or your short friend.

Why don't you grow a pair.

Natalia "

You're a moron.

(Anonymous)

Post 3:
Saturday, Nov. 21, 2009 10:49:40pm

Let me first begin by apologizing for my tone and perhaps the language that I used to address some of my own feelings as being one of the few, if not only, males on campus. It isn't easy for me to be accepted in the Wellesley community. Wellesley has been be a wonderful learning experience and many people here have been welcoming to me. At the same time, hearing "What are you doing here?" when walking through the halls and being judged solely based on my looks can be hard for me. I hope you can understand that.

I fully respect women; strong, intelligent, and engaged women. I'm just concerned that people think of me as a male danger, and I understand that oftentimes comments get misconstrued as they oftentimes do on FirstClass. So why did I write my post? This all began when someone posted a recent comment referring explicitly to me on WellesleyFML. The fact that someone posted a negative comment using my identity without my permission naturally angered me as it would most people. I quickly wrote what I did with this emotion and some of the other incidents in mind.

From most of my experiences here, women time and time again at Wellesley have proven their intelligence. This occurred to me once again tonight when a group approached me and my friend while we were eating dinner. While we sat, a group of about 30 students approached us. Most wanted to talk to me and truly cared about my experience here. Others approached me with just anger and one even threw a glass of water at my face. I apologize for those who are angry and I would like for us to move forward from this point.

A college community is the perfect place to learn from one another. I have learned that many people do care about community and how I as "a man" can fit into it. This was my original hope when I wrote my first post. I do care about this community and do want to learn different points of views about a multitude of topics. But to do this, we need to respect each other. I hope that we can equally show each other some kindness and respect.

I can only be a productive and positive member of this community if we work together. But it can be hard when I feel ostracized here. However, many here have respected me and I have equally respected those around me. Just like you, I want to continue building community. So how will we move forward?

Post 4:
Facebook status: alright so because someone wrote some false post about me on the intarw3b at wellesley, i wrote this post calling them all entitled whores and whatnot; clearly as a troll (and to some extent, you have to admit that this is true) on the open forum @ wellesley and there was a SHITSTORM of responses. while the whole community is out protesting and acting all butthurt, i'm just sitting around lol'ing. you fuck with me,and i'll plant a dagger in your ass. simple as that.

(Anonymous)

Post 5:
Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009 6:43:20pm

[I’m really sorry…]
...for ever coming here. And calling all of you whores. Clearly, some of you are still very upset about my Community post, but I have learned a lot about the difficulties that a woman faces every single day in America. It brings a tear to my eye (metaphorically) to know that some of you are very passionate about women's rights, but I feel that your energies are misdirected. Sure you will deal with me and eradicate me from this campus in style, but your problems will still be there. Your inability to get to the root of the issues that plague our world will still be there. While other guys give me fist pumps and brag about their conquests at this school, I must endure the brunt of your criticisms so that you may all be united under the banner of activism.

And it worked perfectly.

There are real instances of women here actually being alienated from the rest of the Wellesley community. There are real cases of rape and belligerent boyfriends. My hope was that you would all unite to chastise such an extremely contemptible figure so that these issues cannot be ignored. Because honestly, what's the difference between saying thoughts behind your backs, and posting them live? There is no intrinsic difference. And yet, the perception differs, and so I wanted to explore that today. My hope was that some of these alienated women on campus can venture out of their rooms and be embraced by a community that's trying to flame me relentlessly. If I had written something benign, only a few people would have acknowledged it, and that would have been that. Nothing like controversy to stir up the day.

While I was writing the apparently insufficient apology last night, the police officer came into my room to make sure that everything was okay. I chuckled and told him that everything was okay. He wanted to offer me protection from the perhaps inevitable fallout from my polemic. Later, he read my letter and told me that it was cool, and it was the best I could have done...

Also, controversies like this happen all the time. Given the knowledge that the ACLU has my back and that I'm protected by the First Amendment, and the fact that friends who were journalists at other schools attempted similar stunts (with surprising degrees of success that resulted from open dialogue), I figured that this could turn out to be pretty sweet. And just so you know, nothing will happen to me. So for those of you seeking administrative intervention, you are only wasting your time. And for those of you seeking media attention, by all means. But understand that it'll also mean that I get my facetime, and you just can't spin a 2300 gang up on a lone campus figure in any positive way, especially given that I was trolling (even then, you wouldn't need that requirement). Also just so you know, assault or throwing water at someone's face is not protected by the First Amendment (or any). Of course, the event was trivial enough as it was, but if things escalate...

And do any of you honestly believe that I hold these misogynistic views? Please. Get real here. I hold a degree from the best trolling school of all time. I was pissed that you guys used my identity though. And to be honest, this whole debacle IS kind of hilarious. Let's be honest here. It's pretty damn hilarious.



Post 6:
Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009 8:18:51pm

The mistake I made was that I clumped everyone together and called everyone a whore. For that, I am sorry. I said that all of you didn't deserve to be here, but I was wrong for saying that. To reiterate, I believe the women here are very intelligent, and have worked hard to go here. There's definitely an issue of the women here feeling victimized, and I'm sorry for bringing that general feeling of timidity into the community. Additionally, my Facebook status was extremely inappropriate, and I have since removed it. I apologize for that as well.

Thank you.


(Anonymous)

The dean of students responded with this:
I am writing in response to concerns that have been shared with me regarding a recent series of postings on Community and Facebook. Many of you have expressed concern about the ways in which these postings both threaten the identity of this community as a safe, affirming place and do damage to the reputation of students. Messages that demean and threaten our community or an individual are inappropriate to our community standards. I can say that, as always, we will follow procedures for ensuring the safety of students and the integrity of our community. I have consulted with President Bottomly and, at this moment, it seems appropriate to recall a message she wrote last fall to the community in which she notes that incidents that do not uphold our community standards "damage the sense of trust and community that allows free intellectual and cultural exchange to prosper". At this time, we would like to remind everyone of the importance of acting with honor, respect, and integrity. Please know that I along with others who are dealing with this situation appreciate your patience and understanding as we address the many issues involved.



(Anonymous)

:D

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/880/wellesley.jpg

Need we say more?

(Anonymous)

good job

nothing beats skewing other people's opinions about this thing by restricting their information about it

said it before, saying it again

we need to revoke these 'study abroad' rights for men. double standard? sure, but it is a PRIVATE WOMEN'S COLLEGE, hence our right not to have to deal with this ridiculousness.
"study abroad men" cause too much trouble.
Come on, Wellesley, once burnt, twice shy, no?

(Anonymous)

Oh lordy

Last year me and my girlfriend (won't name names, she'd only end up in trouble) hung out in her dorm in freeman, i was told the maximum i'd be allowed to stay was 3 consecutive nights, but i stayed for 5 months solid, by the time i actually went back to my own college, my dorm was dusty as hell.

Now i want to say this much, i know i was breaking the rules in being there for that long, completely ignoring the honor system wellesley has, but my girlfriend was going through a really tough time with her family, her education and other personal problems, and i figured it would be better to get caught and in a bunch of trouble from staff, than to leave her alone each night, needless to say being there for her day in and day out helped and shes now doing much, much better.

But what is my point i hear you ask?

Well, i was there for 5 whole months, to be honest it was pretty damn obvious that i was living there, but none of the students took offence to my presence, and whenever i was engaged in conversation by someone, they were as respectful as you could hope for someone to be, to which i was just as respectful back, i am thankful nobody felt the need to report my presence to the higher ups, and for the overall friendly and welcoming atmosphere i experiences while there.

All i can say is there are a million much better methods this guy could have used to resolve the issue and he chose instead to rattle the cage of every single student on campus, as such he gets no sympathy from me.

(Anonymous)

Pham Poll

This Jeremy Pham thing is sooooo entertaining. Pham your PR is worse than Tiger Woods; but at least Tiger Woods got some. But seriously that ACLU card was a sweet play, Jeremy. ACLU, that’s not going for the gold standard; learn from Tiger Woods, Son! Hire Gloria Allred!!! Or go room by room and class by class to sincerely apologize. POP QUIZ: What should young Jeremy do? A) Ignore the ciaos like Tiger B) Sue like the girls C) Apologize D) All of the Above E) None of the Above
I think that is right bout that. Nice info and thanks. Need to get in google feed.

green hall

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